Kelsier went on to save Elend's life from an inquisitor. if TLR was spiked? Paalm (deceased): Another kandra, one who posed as Waxs wife Lessie for a time in order to groom him for Harmonys purposes. At some point after his revival, he also became a prominent figure on Roshar known as Thaidakar, though he is still physically stuck on Scadrial.[1]. So the head was likely stopped by the ground before leaving his body. Kelsier would understand, but still disapprove of. They were extremely successful. No, Kelsier was not fond of Marsh. Kelsier had lots of plans and backup plans. Kelsier is deified and continues to be venerated more and more by the skaa as the Church of the Survivor gains popularity. Although he had only come into his powers three years before the beginning of Mistborn: The Final Empire, Kelsier repeatedly demonstrates a level of skill and finesse greater than that of most other Mistborn. Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. In the following months, Kelsier himself took on many roles to further the plan, acting as a beacon to the repressed skaa, assisting in recruitment,[30] attacking many noblemen to increase the tensions between the Great Houses,[16], collecting information by purchasing it from informants, and even posing as an informant in order to provide misinformation to noblemen. In his interactions with them, he goes by another name you might recognize if youre a Stormlight fan Thaidakar. He is presumably the founding member of the Ghostbloods, a secret society investigating the Cosmere and ways to travel between all the different worlds. Wax and his friends became embroiled in this incident in opposition to the Set, and Wax was almost killed in an encounter with them. When he reaches their base, he moved past their guards and passed the wall into their chambers. Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. Throughout the course of the series, weve been following the underhanded machinations of a group called the Set. In Alloy of Law, we learned that the Set (through Mister Suit, Waxs uncle) was responsible for funding the Vanishers, a group who was kidnapping female descendants of the Lord Mistborn (aka Spook). The Lost Metal is looming large on the horizon (its out in two weeks! He helped the people there survive using his knowledge of the Metallic Arts, showing them how to make metalminds to store attributes like heat in a way that could be shared with anyone. [22][23] Perhaps as a result of his egotism and arrogance, several of his plans involve setting himself up as a powerful, mysterious, or even divine figure. .1 Global Archive Voiced Books Online Free No Naked Ads -> Here!Mistborn 01 mistborn, p. Kelsier knocked out Camon with Steelpushes and gave control over the crew to Milev. Marsh, who was also in love with Mare, came to resent Kelsier for winning her love and for constantly outshadowing him with his frivolty. Personally I don't think that Ruin had left a mark. Maybe Im just not saying it in a way that can be understood. He forced the rest of the crew to leave, only leaving Vin. The first glimpse we had of Trells influence was at the end of Alloy of Law in the form ofMiles Hundredlives dying proclamation: You are fools! [20] He is arrogant and very driven which, combined with his power, makes him incredibly dangerous;[21] he is willing to go extremely far to achieve his goalsfor example, he would be willing to use Hemalurgy on a large scale to create powerful Allomancers if ultimately necessary to protect Scadrial from other forces in the cosmerethough is not quite as utilitarian as Taravangian. Mare joined him there a few months later. [2] He is capable of using them with a high degree of precision to control the momentum and rotation of dozens of pieces of metal simultaneously. Its central tenet is simply to survive, by any means, until you cannot survive any longer. Here is where Vin comes in. Prior to one of the executions, Kelsier attacks the carriages transporting the victims and frees them, killing a Steel Inquisitor in the process. The Skaa still would have rebelled, Vin still wouldve gone after TLR, and they still wouldve won. Their combined effort would, in the end, result in the collapse of the Final Empire. Without a Physical aspect, his powers failed. Marsh resents Kelsier because Kelsier had success with the skaa rebellion soon after Marsh quit being its leader. [7] Using Allomancy he was able to escape the Pits. The Southern Scadrians have also used the metal in primer cubes which can somehow regulate ettmetals effects with the flip of a switch. The protagonists find a temple to a man they assume is the Lord Ruler, in which is stored the allomantic and feruchemic Bands. MellowKween 21 days ago Hmm well like I said, he's never really gone. But strangely, he still loved him. Waxillium (Wax) Ladrian(fka Asinthew): One of our two primary characters. At the end of TheBands of Mourning, we learn that aside from the Survivorists, there is also a whole civilization of people far to the south of Elendel that worships Kelsier, calling him the Sovereign. After testing her ability to burn multiple metals, Kelsier concludes that Vin was in fact a Mistborn. Sazed, after becoming God, grants Spook the power of a Mistborn and heals him of his ultra-enhanced sense (an effect of continuously flaring tin for extended periods of time). Paalm has been working with the Set to attempt to break free from Harmonys influence. That said though, Im also kind of confused at what Ruin would be trying to accomplish even if TLR HAD been spiked. , Kelsier is terrified by Ati and the power that he holds, seeing and feeling it through the Well of Ascension.[74]. [24] This results in the skaa considering him a god, leading to the founding of the Church of the Survivor, which refers to Kelsier as "Lord of the Mists". HE CANT BE HEMALURGICALLY SPIKED IF THE METAL ISNT TOUCHING HIS INSIDES. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. At the end of the book, Waxillium Ladrian is given a feruchemic coin by Hoid which stores the memory of a man with one eye and one hemalurgic spike, with arms covered in scars. The elite of the underworld, each of whom had one of Kelsier's various abilities, were recruited. He accomplished a lot, and died facing down the Lord Ruler himself. Now lets talk a bit more in depth about Kelsier, and what hes been up to. However, this apparition of Kelsier is eventually revealed to be Ruin in disguise. The Final Empire: Mistborn Book 1. It's the same power, after all. Thus he decides to go along with him out of curiosity. This is why I love Brandon. Kelsier (aka The Survivor): Kelsier was the leader of the group of thieves who went after the Lord Ruler in the original trilogy, and was the person who recruited Vin. At the end of TheBands of Mourning, she was shot several times but retained a metalmind and escaped. Greetings, Cosmere chickens and Allomancers! Marsh/Ironeyes/Death: Kelsier's Inquisitor brother, who possesses Hemalurgic spikes, allowing him to use the abilities of Hemalurgy. Information about books that have not yet been released, like the other secret novels releasing in 2023 and Stormlight 5, is allowed only on meta-pages for the books themselves. Vin - (Adopted Daughter) (Asended/Deceased). And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. And we know Ruin was able to manipulatepeople, particularly unstable people like Vin's mother and Gemmel, soit possible that the rebels who stabbed the Lord Ruler were influenced by Ruin to create a Hemalurgic Spike. The Set was not after the Bands of Mourning as originally believed, but rather the airship and bombs located within the temple. Marsh doesnt like a lot of Kelsiers actions and the way he handles the rebellion. He is the central figure of the religion known as the Church of the Survivor. Solid in the metal you fed to Elend. [62] He has also worked together with Khriss. They discover that theres a murderer on the looseand, even worse, Harmony contacts Wax directly to inform him that this murderer is a rogue kandra named Bleeder/Paalm whos gone mad. Kelsier is Vins mentor and teaches her to use her Allomantic abilities. That is like arguing with air. After removing her second spike and adding one of Trellium, she went mad and began working with the Set, and was defeated. And for all of you who feel the theory doesnt have a point, you can just stop posting. It's not a sad death. He also knew at that point he'd been too much of a problem for the Lord Ruler. He overcomes this character flaw eventually (demonstrated by saving the noblemen Elend Venture from certain death) when Vin convinces him that there are good people among the nobility. Kelsier, famously known as the Survivor of Hathsin, is a powerful Mistborn and one of the main characters in Mistborn: The Final Empire. Once he is freed from the Well along with Ruin, he initially travels around through the Cognitive version of Luthadel, seeking out his friends. [53][54] He used this opportunity to tell Spook to send a message to Vin, warning her that any spiked person could potentially be under Ruin's control. As the Sovereign, Kelsier ruled the Southern Scadrians for a time and formed another religion that deified Metalborn, and then he left. Yes, he's really dead. With the spike removed, Kelsier encouraged her to take up the power, relinquishing it so that she can do so. Mistborn Era 2 takes place 341 years after the events in the original trilogy, but theres another little story that we hope youve also read that takes place between themMistborn: Secret History. [43][77] Merely interacting with Hoid for a brief amount of time was enough to send Kelsier into a murderous rage. We want to discuss this theory. If it did, when Inquisitors are made, the spike would have killed them before it gained a Hemalurgic charge. He offered to teach her about gold and atium, gave her the money he took from Camon, and allowed her to leave, as he didn't want to force anybody into his crew. [16] He gifted Vin a mistcloak and started to teach her Allomancy. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? He is almost always late to gatherings, which he attributes to always having somewhere better to be. After the fall of the Lord Ruler, Marsh eventually came under control of Ruin, as Ruin used the Hemalurgic nature of the Inquisitors to control them. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. It gains its Hemalurgic charge as soon as it touches moving blood. It requires the physical anchor of the spike. From what I do understand, I don't see why it is relevant, and generally, when something is irrelevant it is wrong simply because it is simply adding more complexity to the books (I think we all know the Cosmere has plenty), and is pointless. Many years after the Catacendre, the cult which started after Kelsier's deception with OreSeur directly following his death has become a fully-formed religion. Steris and Marasi are both members of this religion, though Marasi admits that it is more because she was raised in it. Vin didn't trust him but agreed in order to learn how to use Allomancy. Kelsier is the younger brother of Marsh, who is disappointed at Kelsier's apparent lack of direction or purpose until Kelsier leads the skaa rebellion. Speaking of the Set. Yeah sorry I meant the head of the spear. [2] Kelsier later reveals in his letter to Vin that he had intended to use the Eleventh Metal to destroy the Lord Ruler but could not discover how to use it in his fight. [75] In retaliation, the Lord Ruler executes numerous skaa in public demonstrations. Kelsier also is quite adept at pewter-dragging, as he is capable of running long distances and experiencing only minor fatigue afterwards. He then "Snapped", becoming a Mistborn. Honestly, I am kinda confused as to what this theory is trying to say, and how it is relevant to current and future cosmere. Does anybody find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is? Kelsier has also been keeping himself busy by interfering with Roshar (the world in which The Stormlight Archive is set). The mentor figure always ends up getting killed. First off, I don't mean to come off as hostile, but I am genuinely confused as to what this theory is saying. While difficult, it is possible to obtain atium and lerasium from ettmetal, but not through mechanical means. If you dont have time for a reread of the series before diving into the new book and need a refresher course so you can go in with your metalminds clear, were happy to help remind you of whos who, whats what, and all those other wondrous Ws! Itd be interesting if he actually HAD been spiked by the spears. The spike is not coming with you when your Cognitive separates from the body. [43] He feels Ruin's presence during his time in the Well. The Well of Ascension: The impossible task has been accomplished. The people who agree with it will simply agree. The spear head doesnt have to leave the body. Allegedly dead as of the end of TheBands of Mourning, but heyits a Cosmere novel, who knows? Marasi previously studied law and had a bit of a crush on Wax, but shes since moved on. And the whole point of the Cosmere Discussion forumis to discuss irrelevant theories and minutiae about the Cosmere. (Aside from the possibility of the spear no longer being a symbol). As of the end of TheBands of Mourning, it is believed by the characters that the goal of the Set is to begin a civil war to overthrow Elendel. [8] He also hates how much Kelsier goes against his Intent, bringing about massive societal change in how he brought about the death of the Lord Ruler, and played into Ruin's plans. Kelsier sought and eventually found the Eleventh metal as he believed it would help him to defeat the Lord Ruler. He teamed up with the escaped Plantation skaa Dockson and the Tineye Mare, whom he married. Back at the city gates Kelsier introduced Vin to Sazed. Fortnite dropped the official announcement early Friday. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. Kelsier is the leader and presumed founder of the organization, which Mraize calls "the most powerful organization in all the cosmere. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. Protecting you.Giving you power!, When Leras died and Ruin began to Splinter the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier used the Ire's orb to Connect with Preservation and Ascend, allowing him to protect the power and hold it until Vin could take it. After further reading and realisation that there is more to this, I think it's safe to say that he's pretty obsessive. He also ran into Vin and was shocked to see how far she had come in the time he was away. When used Allomantically, the metal is said to burn with a pure whiteness and will slowly be consumed, in the same way it would be by a Misting or Mistborn. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. After being betrayed by his wife Mare on a job stealing from the Lord Ruler, Kelsier is sent to the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium geodes, one of the most sought-after Allomantic metals. [3] He appears to be using the Ghostbloods to find a way for him to leave Scadrial and is very interested in learning from the Heralds, particularly Kalak, as they are subject to a similar restriction. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. [34] This spike pins his soul to his bones. Even with the strongest criminal team ever put together, Kel's scheme appears to be the absolute long shot. [46], During his journey to find the Ire, he runs into Ruin and has a discussion about Ruin's intent. (Like Wax, and Wayne, and okay, those are the only remaining Ws, but isnt alliteration fun?). Later on, a group of Southern Scadrians traveled north in search of the Sovereign's Bands of Mourning, but were captured by the Set, who decided to seek the Bands as well. Proceed with caution if you have not read this book. However, Kelsier is then confronted by the Lord Ruler, who backhands him across the face and then stabs him in the chest with a spear, killing him. After Camon and Vin left, Kelsier realized that the ministry had already discovered that Camon was a thief and only played along to find the crew's hideout. This isn't really a theory, I would just like to get the ball rolling on a discussion and throw that out there. Kelsier is known by many titles, the origins of which vary. born of the mist dagger kelsier fornite books bookmarks Creator Janseloth Designs 2 Downloads 3 Sales US$5.40 Followers 0 Follow Contact Page translated by automatic translation. MeLaan: A kandra who has been around from about the time of the Catacendre. As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. For one of them, Kelsier's crew planned to steal the Lord Ruler's atium cache, which they believed lay hidden in Kredik Shaw. [42] For a period, he did not fully respect or believe Leras's divinity, but over time he came to respect him more. In the following years, Kelsier traveled the empire and learned the art of Allomancy from an old skaa Mistborn named Gemmel. (The Mistborn Saga #1) by Brandon Sanderson (Goodreads Author) 4. From the skaa in Keep Shezler he heard rumors of the Eleventh metal. The roast is strong with this post. Marasi is a full constable, and Wayne is Waxs deputy. Priests in this religion wear robes with stitching up the arms to emulate Kelsier's scars from the Pits of Hathsin. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. Clearly I am not the only one questioning the relevancy, (Thanks for the support btw @KalaDANG) and it is not to point out that I don't "like" the theory, I find it unlikely, and there are 2 main reasons: A. I don't understand what the theory is trying to say (Which might make my thoughts on the theory irrelevant). He met with Yeden the leader of the skaa rebellion and made Yeden hire him to bring down the Final Empire. [12], Deal with your own stupid planet, you idiot. And the whole point of the Cosmere Discussion forumis to discuss irrelevant theories and minutiae about the Cosmere. Kelsier has been confirmed by WoB not to have a spike, so although he was being influenced by Ruin's plans, Ruin was not controlling his motions and therefore he did not have the intent necessary to perform hemalurgy. TLRwas gonna kill Kelsier anyways. Please clarify. After Kelsier died, when Vin fought the Lord Ruler, Marsh killed the other Steel Inquisitors in Luthadel and saved Vin's life. [14][21][27], Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. [42] Despite being mostly cordial with Kelsier, he does hate him to an extent due to how he manipulated peoples faiths during his life, playing with their hearts and treating their faith casually. [31] He lost these abilities in death and has not recovered them.[22]. My bad. I wonder if there's a way to make hemalurgy permanent. However, Mare's use of Allomancy was sensed by the Steel Inquisitors (since they could pierce copperclouds), and Kelsier and Mare were captured by the Lord Ruler. When Marasi Colms discovers an agent of the Ghostbloods, Moonlight, she manages to convince her to take Marasi to a warehouse in Bilming to aid in the fight against the Set. We do it because we want to. He helped the people there survive using his knowledge of the Metallic Arts, showing them how to make unsealed metalminds to store attributes like heat in a way that could be shared with anyone. His most prominent trademark is the multitude of long scars running down his arms, a memento of time spent in the Pits of Hathsin. A women by the codename of Codenames Are Stupid, opens communication with the leader of the Ghostbloods by the means of a seon, which shows Kelsier on an airship travelling to Elendel. Even if he had said something rude, its a theory. With the garrison gone and the nobility weakened by the war, the rest of the army then could take over Luthadel. All we know for certain is that its some sort of entity worshiped by many on Scadrial. , He and Hoid have a very antagonistic relationship one with one another, stretching back to when they first met and got into a violent fight. Not again. [63] The Ghostbloods believe Kelsier to still have his Allomantic abilities,[64] and he appears to be playing into this lie.[32]. [79], This page or section contains spoilersfor, This page or section needs to be updated with new informationfor, Kelsier to the Lord Ruler, last words before death, This article is still missing information. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. [42] While he was in the Well, Hoid passed by and Kelsier essentially challenges him to a fight that Kelsier ultimately loses. People have theorized similar about Hoid. . Kelsier and Dockson went to see her first hand; they watched Vin Soothe an obligator during Camon's scheme, confirming that she was at least a Soother. You just posted an irrelevant comment that was honestly a little hostile. [44] He walks past Luthadel towards the lake of the same name, near which he finds Khriss and Nazh. "[3] Kelsier is Iyatil's master. See below for the whole section on Kelsier and what hes been up to behind the scenes. Alloy of Law served mostly to introduce us to the main characters (and we will go into each of them in more depth below). Aside from the Survivorists, there was also a whole civilization of people that worshiped Kelsier far to to the south of Elendel, calling him the Sovereign. I had a similar reaction to theend of Lev Grossmans The Magicians. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. 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