", He goes on to ask about her family and other mundane details, before adding, "At what age did your breasts develop? 2020 Animated Documentary 15Directed by Shoko Hara Produced byStefan Michel / Studio Seufz. Harder shared several letters and pictures from Ramirez - but pointed out he never pays prisoners for items - or sells letters or artwork sent to him personally. "I just believe in him . By August 1985, the press had made it clear that nobody was safe. [3] Ramirez committed several murders in San Francisco and stood trial there. Especially someone like Richard Ramirez, as far as serial killers go dude is a psycho in the worst way. The serial killer was found guilty of 13 murders, five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults and 14 burglaries. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. [1], In the mid-1980s, Eva became involved with personal demons and a strong distaste for the world. Nothing personal. I still could not believe it was Richard writing to me. How and why did you decide to do this? And yet, being detained in San Quentin State Prison, he has an enormous number of female groupies that are crazy about him. LET ME REPHRASE SINCE I CANT EDIT THE TITLE. They just show it differently. The Super Heroines made their last album, Love and Pain, in 1983; but it was not released for another 8 years. Just a Guy, our first foray into the animated documentary genre, started its highly successful festival run in 2020. He called me in the morning and sang me refrains to wake me up. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Though little is known about her upbringing, it was probably quite different from the tumultuous early life of her future husband. I have a friend who sells what's known as murderabilia, various things he's collected and traded from & with killers he's corresponded with over time, he makes a minor living doing that. Ramirez famously held his hand up during the trial to reveal a pentagram on his hand - and shocking the courtroom. Ramirez professed his devotion to the Devil in court. TwitterDoreen Lioy entering San Quentin State Prison to be with Richard Ramirez. He murdered 14 people and committed numerous other crimes. Richard Ramirez killed at least 14 people, he raped and tortured at least two dozen more. So why did a successful magazine editor give up everything to marry a monster? Balls look too heavy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. "He just always masturbated. Others argue that Ramirezs health problems led to the couples separation. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. [1] About the same time, she met Rozz Williams, who was starting the band Christian Death. I was so happy. Press J to jump to the feed. I really think hes cute and Im gonna write to him. I mean, I would think thats kind of strange.. Born on February 29, 1960, Ramirez was raised in El Paso, Texas. I realize some of you think what I do is disgusting, and that's okay. I personally don't have any problems with folks who are known as "serial killer groupies" or whatever. Ultimately, Ramirez was never executed but instead died of complications from B-cell lymphoma in 2013. wish there was more, I tried looking for it I think they removed it , but do yall know if its anywhere else ? 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Getty ImagesRamirez professed his devotion to the Devil in court. "He loved his image as the Night Stalker no question about it he had a hefty amount of female admirers and he knew he had notoriety behind his name and he liked that. TwitterRichard Ramirezs wife allegedly separated from her husband before he died in 2013. Harder, who runs a crime memorabilia site called Murder Auction, told The Sun: "I first started writing to Ramirez in late 2000 and I visited with him twice and then I saw him a third time during another visit. I love children, she said. "He never liked to talk about his case not with me anyway. Richard Ramirez had an extremely traumatic start to life. Then I recorded Night Stalker for my band Super Heroines, and thats where I got his address. "I knew other people who visited him once walked in and the first thing he said was take off your shoes and put them up on the glass and he would jerk off right there, she told me the guy next to him actually handed him some toilet paper to clean up - it was just a thing - they knew that's what he was going to do. After 11 years of writing love letters to her prospective husband, Doreen Lioy finally got to marry the man of her dreams. One time, Harder said Ramirez lied to him about the name of his dog claiming it was called King, when it was actually called Princess. Richard Ramirez had an extremely traumatic start to life. Cookie Notice The date of this crime is unknown, occurring between 29 th May and 1 st June, the day they were discovered. I introduced the glorification rule to weed out people that follow this topic for the wrong reasons. I always admired his voice and felt this was the best opportunity to have us together vocally expressing our love for Christ. Speed Queens broke up before they could release any songs, and she and bassist Sandra Ross started the Super Heroines. For other inquiries, Contact Us. He would do little research projects and try to figure out different things. She was in Christian Death for a short time before they added two more members, one of whom later played some shows with the Super Heroines. Doreen Lioy remained unconvinced of his guilt. "Yeah he wasn't convicted of that but they were part of his case. Ramirez murdered 13 people in California in the mid-80s Credit: YouTube. Anyway, they could not understand that he was smiling at the camera to please me, because he had found a real friend in me. We became friends and he even sent me $50 for my birthday . She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. -Translated from the French book, Richard Ramirez: Le fils du diable, (The Son of Evil) by Nicolas Castelaux. Ramirez attacked people of all ages including children and elderly people. They have murdered and tortured and raped. Richard Ramirez was definitely the only serial killer whose story I didnt really enjoy learning. Do I want to make a personal connection with someone like this? Yeesh I know. As for movies I like thrillers and comedies. Not long after that, Ramirezs life began to take a dark turn. She spent a lot of time with Richard Ramirez, with whom she claims she was in a relationship. Eventually Eva O contributed to the band's 1982 album Only Theatre of Pain, which was a highly influential album on the emerging American deathrock movement. His other artwork shows sinister looking devils and characters holding knives. We are very gateful to see the film enjoy a very rewarding response and so far won the Golden Dragen at Krakow Film Festival and the Grand Prix an Animafest Zagreb. The twisted serial killer is currently the focus of a new Netflix documentary, which has left many viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes against men, women and children. Before coming to see him, I asked him for a favor, since I saw him every night on TV. The 30 th is the more likely date, due to dated evidence at the scene: a TV guide had been turned to a page showing late night on 29 th, to noon on 30 th.Mabel Bell's diary had been filled in for the 29 th.The emergency room doctor, Michael Agron MD believed the injuries were two days . Death always comes with the territory. You can't whitewash it, Ramirez was not a nice person. Richard Ramirez and I have been writing to each other for a little over a year now. The twisted serial killer is currently the focus of a new Netflix documentary, which has left many viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes against men, women and children. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Then he made a request to the prosecution to grant me visit access. So, no. She wasnt deterred by the fact that he was found guilty of horrific crimes, from slashing a womans throat so deeply that she was nearly decapitated to gouging another victims eyes out. He answered the thirty letters. My friend Edwin was married to Eva O. Watch the trailer for Netflix's Crime Scene: The Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel: He was sentenced to death and eventually died of natural causes in 2013 at the age of 53 on Death Row at San Quentin . Sarah and Richard had more of a "fantasy" kind of . And Im none of those things. One time, Harder said Ramirez lied to him about the name of his dog claiming it was called King, when it was actually called Princess. Although shes certainly not the only woman who has fallen for a serial killer, Lioy stands out among many of them because she simply refused to accept her husbands verdict. Lioy also didnt mind his Satanism, which he flaunted during his trial. I have shown all my posters respect and answered all of your questions with haste and honesty. BTW I am also probably considered a damaged person but even I dont find serial killers it the least attractive. I cant help the way the world looks at him, she said at the time. Richard Ramirez is under renewed scrutiny thanks to Netflix documentary series: Night Stalker. "I just thought it was funny he wanted to look like this tough guy, this monster and Princess just didn't fit with that," Harder said. His older cousin Miguel a Vietnam veteran told him sickening stories of torturing Vietnamese women during the war. -last edit- Still some questions coming in and I will answer all of them. "Yeah he wasn't convicted of that but they were part of his case. Harder described Ramirez as having a "very dark sense of humor" and loving his image as the Satanic Night Stalker. In 1996 Richard Ramirez, aka the 'Night Stalker', married Doreen Lioy in California's San Quentin prison. I honestly dont think this guy deserved friendship. After all, the 1996 ceremony took place in San Quentin State Prison and her new husband was the notorious serial killer Richard Ramirez. Christian Death reunited and released two more albums, but the lineup that the band used on those albums was essentially just everyone from Shadow Project. View our online Press Pack. Ok, we werent friends per say, I guess pen pals. Lioy also became his most ardent defender in the public eye, sometimes even praising his character in interviews. He wanted me to be happy and if while talking about crimes, I told him that I dreamed to commit violent acts, he was quick to remind me of his situation to dissuade me. Jason Vukovich: The Hammer-Wielding Pedophile-Hunter Known As The 'Alaskan Avenger', What Stephen Hawking Thinks Threatens Humankind The Most, 27 Raw Images Of When Punk Ruled New York, Join The All That's Interesting Weekly Dispatch. I wrote a song about his exploits, and I wrote to him every day, sometimes several times a day, as if he were beside me and we were in conversation. We have no hard and fast rules on correspondence at the moment, and i've held off on introducing them because there are facets of value in original content like this. The other 2 women are friends. I just felt terrified and uncomfortable the whole time. On August 8, 2008 (08.08.08), Eva O. married Edwin Borsheim, of the band Kettle Cadaver.[7]. I would love to understand and study why women find these scumbags attractive. She started a local, all-girl punk band in Long Beach known as the Speed Queens, and played with them from 1980 to 1982. [1], The Super Heroines released several albums, and when Rikk Agnew left Christian Death, Rozz asked Eva to fill in on guitar. "He just put his head really close to the glass and he kept looking back to make sure there was no officers walking by behind him. Do you have a shower massager? It's not even to do with the fact that are safe and tucked away in jail because most of these idiots would unlock the cells themselves given the chance. Now I know this is taboo in an era where everyone seems to have fun hating Christ, a man who has done nothing to them and He said: "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you." Such women are ultimately as insecure, narcissistic, pathetic and low in empathy as the serial killers they worship. While there, she became interested in the writings of Anton LaVey and Boyd Rice and started to suffer from depression. I've read girls get good orgasms from them.". Edit: Thanks for all the great questions, guys. I'm back to answer more for a few hours. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Definitely wouldnt be sending photos of yourself or your home address. Eva O is a 61 year old American Singer born on 11th January, 1961 in Las Vegas, Nevada. These cookies do not store any personal information. I could see being attracted to someone who would make you safer, but not this. I don't agree with writing serial killers, I would never do it and I certainly would never call one my friend. While I may be far from making some kind of breakthrough or discovery, I still want access to his mind while he is alive. "He was extremely socially awkward because of his disposition and because he was kept so secluded," he said. Ramirez is locked up so he can't hurt them. They dont know him the way I do.. It's difficult moderating threads like this. So what! I never tried it myself. The short film called "Just a Guy" is about the women that had relationships with Richard Ramirez. Out of boredom, she and Rozz started another band known as Shadow Project; they released two albums in the 1990s with that band. Humanity everything is corrupt the moment a human touches it. The Sun can also reveal a series of bizarre art work and sexually explicit prison letters by the serial killer who . Our community offers an alternative to subs that don't allow videos or podcast links as post submissions to kick off discussion. In one letter to a crazed female fan, he brags how he gets 50 letters a week, creepily asks at what age her breasts developed and claims he lost his virginity aged nine. He talks about cats a lot. Richard Ramirezs wife allegedly separated from her husband before he died in 2013. I have taken it upon myself to learn from this man, about his life, about his past, because I wanted to know how he went from being a normal little boy to a serial killer. I can answer a few questions about my experience with writing him as well. I just believe in him completely. Thomas Glen Lundgren, 13, who was brutalized by twice-paroled sex offender and violent child molester Bill Bonin and his accomplice Vernon Butts. and our Director Shoko Hara is one of them. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I will continue to answer questions as they come in. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Richard Ramirez's bizarre childhood YouTube Andrew H. Walker, Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images. Disturbingly, this did not stop a slew of women taking an interest in him after his arrest. It didnt really creep me out much, I wouldnt have visited him or anything but all it from a FAR distance was cool. [1] Regarded as a veteran and "one of the most striking figures of the American Gothic scene," Eva O has had a significant influence on the emerging death rock movement, which garnered her the "Queen of Darkness" title from the press and audience. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. If so slide the link . He's apparently handsome and woman love notorious bad guys for some reason . "If you ever read his correspondence he was not a good letter writer. I'm struggling to decide how I feel about this (not that it really matters). Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in 2005, described the murderer as an awkward character who didn't really know how to interact with people. Pretty sure the closest he got to experiencing sincere, romantic love was with his prison girlfriend, Eva O. In one letter from Harder's collection, shared with The Sun, the killer writes to a female groupie and goes from asking mundane questions about her favorite color - to sexually explicit stories from his past. When directly asked, Lioy would just say, Hometown girl makes bad., [People call me crazy] or stupid or lying, she complained. In one letter to a crazed female fan, he brags how he gets 50 letters a week, creepily asks at what age her breasts developed and claims he lost his virginity aged nine. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. "Because of that they put him in the most controlled environment in San Quentin which is called the adjustment center he had no visits, no telephone access, no privileges. "He would sometimes get his privilege level back up to where he could have visits but they were always behind the glass.". Eva O Talks.Ramirez, Iceman . I agree with you. Love it or hate it, and ask any questions you like. Her zodiac sign is Capricorn American Criminal Richard Ramirez was born Ricardo Leyva Muoz Ramrez on 29th February, 1960 in El Paso, Texas, USA and passed away on 7th Jun 2013 Greenbrae, California, USA aged 53. Fortunately, the LAPDs new fingerprint database and a bit of luck saw the Night Stalker captured. There have a few reports so far that this glorifies killer. Actor John Stamos actually credited her with helping him become a celebrity. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. She emphasizes that people need to listen to the entire album to understand its full meaning, rather than judging it by its cover, track listing, and the lyrics of the first several songs. Eva Ortiz (born January 11, 1961), better known as Eva O, is a music artist most notable for her previous works in Christian Death and a band she formed with her then-husband Rozz Williams called Shadow Project. Eva was born on January 11, 1961, in Las Vegas, Nevada, and moved to Los Angeles, California, in 1979 in hopes to start a rock band and be a rock star. Doreen Lioy entering San Quentin State Prison to be with Richard Ramirez. "He just put his head really close to the glass and he kept looking back to make sure there was no officers walking by behind him. The Night Stalker killed at least 14 people in the mid-1980s. In 2013, CNN reported that serial killer Richard Ramirez, also known as "the Night Stalker," had died of natural causes while on death row in California. I choose to be honest. There was simply no way you could live a normal life and be prepared for someone like him. "He didn't really know how to interact, he was soft spoken and well spoken he read a lot. 180-12 Hometown: Texas Wheels: Lamborghini in the parking lot Brothers:4. What could I get out of it? Thats how we communicated before meeting for the first time.of course, newspapers and TV news said he smiled and waved to the camera because he was not remorseful. As for movies I like thrillers and comedies. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. "He has this chronic masturbation problem and was always masturbating when female officers would walk by. I asked Eric Clayton of Savour Machine if he would do a duet with me. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. Relatives disowned her, and journalists couldnt understand why she had upended her life to be with Ramirez. Richard Ramirez killed at least 14 people, he raped and tortured at least two dozen more. And so on October 3, 1996, prison staff secured a visiting room for the couple and allowed them to get married much to the disdain of the families of Ramirezs victims. I'm surprised your mon was okay with allowing her 13 year old to correspond with a serial killer lol. If you dont mind me asking. Although Ramirezs obituary didnt include any mention of a divorce, Lioy and Ramirez reportedly did not see each other for a few years before he died. If this image is graphic, flair it NSFW, please. She corresponded with him after his incarceration for a brief time, but did not meet him before his notorious killings made him famous. He was reportedly abused by his father, and he sustained multiple head injuries as a child. Just a Guy, our first foray into the animated documentary genre, started its highly successful festival run in 2020. On August 31, 1985, Ramirez was arrested after multiple witnesses recognized him on the street and beat him relentlessly until police arrived. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Ramirez started his crime spree at the age of 24, and it would last from April 10, 1984, until August 24, 1985.During this time, he committed 14 murders and numerous other heinous crimes.. he was eventually convicted for 13 counts of murder, 5 counts of attempted murder, 11 counts of sexual . Even his visits were just bizarre - some of his mannerisms - you could tell he wasn't 100 percent.". But I was brought up [Christian] and I have no problem with it. Right? "He just always masturbated. And to send pictures of yourself, to have it sent to your home address be careful, peeps. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. A lot of well heeled businessman collect those items. Sarah, who works with children in a conservative German town, is one of them, too. I think hes a really great person. William Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in prison, says he even masturbated in front of him during a visit and it became such a problem he was kept in solitary confinement for most of his prison life. 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