What did Chris Watts HATE about Shanann? And Shanann, 15 charges? Apologies for the rave, just my thoughts! At the end of the day who cares anymore?? Do you know of any? So far I dont believe details have emerged about this dark period in Shananns life in North Carolina; however, it seems to mirror her approach to finances and life in Colorado. Hold up, is that a SCRATCH on Chris Watts neck? Watts used the Lexus frequently while Shanann was away, including to drive his mistress to the. this report is that on that evening he is observed pulling out of the driveway in the Lexus, pulling up to his work truck parked down the street, opening the Lexus hatch and transferring some items. Why is there a scratch on Shanann Wattss neck? Well so via Shanann and other MLMers. It was a 2016 Lexus SUV, it was only 1 1/2 years old upon her death, that is not too old to be leased again. And in fact he goes straight there with no stops. Chris Watts was sentenced to five life sentences on Nov. 19, roughly three months after his arrest. 25 Feb/23. State Seeking Leave to Appeal on #OscarPistorius Sentencing Hearing, August 25 [LIVE BLOG], Oscar Pistorius Sentencing Hearing: Day 1 [LIVE COVERAGE], Henris Humiliation lies at the heart of the Triple Axe Murder Motive [WARNING GRAPHIC VIDEO], Judge Desais incredible final question to Henri, Henris incredible answer and the secret it reveals, Van Breda police statement vs Plea Explanation. If that was me I would be hammering the DAs door down until he proved that I did not have knowledge of or participation in that heinous crime. As far as Cindy is concerned, she didnt like her from the day she met her, that was way before she had her children with the food allergies, before she knew of anything health related to her most likely. Shanann Watts and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were allegedly killed by her husband, Chris Watts. 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Nobody has bashed a murder victims, stories are told about them all the time in books, movies, blogs, vlogs, not everyone is acting like emotional goof balls, they want to see how the family dynamics lead to this horrific crime, if you cant get that why even remark? Its unclear at this point if this lawsuit has anything to do with the allegation that 15 charges were filed against Shanann Watts at one time, or whether the three charges on Chris Watts are true, and if they are, if theres any connection. Each one makes a difference , Call the childrens hospital she worked for Childrens hospitals are well known for hiring career criminals and most offer rehabilitation programs during shifts, especially for felons. Required fields are marked *. This is the last . Your insight that the murders were Chriss way of finally imposing boundaries in a most horrific manner is spot-on. If you think ShanAnn was a mentally sound and stable individual, I fear for not only your intelligence, but you discretion as well. His truck could not fit in the garage; which is why he was only able to back it in so far when removing the bodies. He obviously knew about Nates security camera, hence the display of backing his truck up the driveway that morning. The evidence is in the actions, not the words, dear. The shallow grave she had been placed in had been dug by Watts with a shovel. Ceces sobbing was extremely bothersome to me as was Bellas obvious unhappiness. (Only after he confessed did they impound the truck.). #Rohde What did Drama, but OK actually mean? Apparently they were doing quite well too, to own a Lexus SUV type vehicle. When Watts says hes addicted to her Im sure she conveyed that she was enamored with him too but he had the leverage in that he was still married -even if he could just get free of his wife, he would always have the children. Her family says she had a seizure but thats not true as her license wasnt suspended and thats standard following a seizure (whether it occurred while driving or not). Quit your job like I have get free stuff, live the glamorous life, andhave no money at the end of it. The suburban Denver crime began with the disappearance of a pregnant Shanann Watts and the couple's two children, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. This is Watts doing a Thrive spiel to the cops, only, a police interrogation is where pitching fairy tales no longer works. Thats hell anyway.. Joanne, Jay Shank, Janie etc youre so ill informed itd be funny if it wasnt pathetic. Her friend that came from Hawaii to Colorado to help care for her and the kids after her neck surgery. Shame on you !! Put simply, Shanann was advocating spending beyond their means as a way of promoting a product, and using the idea of living beyond ones means [as a sort of dream-come-true fantasy] as a sales hook. He has said he planned to kill Shanann. To me, its bizarre. [Discovery Documents, page 2111]. It seems Watts used this information to renew the insurance [another expense] effective from August 15 to February 15. A short time later Commander Egan received information that a uniformed officer in the neighborhood observed Chris packing up what appeared to be blankets and a cooler inside the white Lexus in the garage. Also at that time Amanda and Nick Thayer arrived (license plate #ANI-736). My Ex Son In Law was Stationed in Fort bragg NC! For symptoms. It suggests her alimentary tract was prone to inflammation. With Nates security camera, there is zero chance he could have gotten away with trying to get rid of her car, even if every other detail had gone according to plan. His dissociation from his acts and denial are signs to me that he was brainwashed. Its pretty much standard practice when it comes to MLM companies: The dirty little secret promoters wont tell you, is that far from the auto bonus being a reward for hard work, the promoters are required to get a lease when they reach a particular milestone. Or is he supposed to be pleased with himself now cause she was not an angel? Perhaps that led to the babys health issue at birth. Shan'ann Watts Tribute Video: "Someday we will all be gone, but lullabies go on and on" Shan'ann talks about spending "quality time" with Chris Watts "I don't know if we're gonna have another baby anytime soon" Just a day in the life of Shan'ann Watts Was Shan'ann a *genuine* person? But then, dont count on it because with the way youre talking, it sounds like she has her hands full with her ex husbands selfish, arrogant, and stupid girlfriend that believes everything that drips from the slimebags mouth. then the person writing the report SWITCHES BACK TO PRESENT TIME, Tuesday evening, the time of the surveillance, and says that NOW CW is parked next to the truck and the Lexus trunk is open. A sizable fraction of those visitors have undoubtedly converted into the Thrive fairy tale. We DO NOT HIRE anyone with a prior felony on their record. No. He obviously was using both vehicles for various and a sundry things clothing changes, for dating purposes and whatever he put in and/or took out on the day he was caught running under the garage door and into the house. Yes the 15 charges were definitely reported. On April 13, police went to a home in the Lansing, Michigan, area, where they found the scene. Its a Nice Place to Live! Even Chris mistress, Nichol, was toxic in the sense that she preferred being in a relationship with a married man. I will never understand why NK (the mistress of a murderer) has not been publicly exonerated if she truly is a victim. Boom. I am a Michigan State University Graduate. Henris lack of motive might sway the Supreme Court. ANALYST, Britains youngest double murderers provide psychological code for Henri van Bredas motive, and vice versa [ANALYSIS]. More from her mother I would think, than her dad. NO WAY! Omeprazole was given to Cece bc she was born with a collapsed esophogus. 2) The girls Facetimed with MATERNAL grandparents Sunday night, confirmed in grandfather interview. ANALYSIS, WATCH: Henri van Bredas application for leave to appeal. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? A fresh start as Rourke said, but its deeper than that he wanted to be fresh and unencumbered, for her. Following the disappearance of Chris' wife, Shanann Watts, and the couple's two children from a small Denver suburb in 2018, a major police hunt ensued. No, Ronnie asked to FaceTime on August 10. Its vulgar too. You should be thanking this man for his hard work exploring the truth without biased. . Hmmm. Are these even these childrens parents? Rohde Trial: Can a body bruise after it has died, even one prone to bruising? That person showed no emotion for his deceased family, until he confessed and knew he was caught. Thanks for you question. I believe it was auctioned off because they could get a better price. ShanAnn changed her name so Shannon was ShanAnn. If you listen to the man talking, he tells on himself every step of the way. Is the killing of Harambe the gorilla a crime, or not? Shannan had hell to deal with with Chris family while alive, least we can do is leave her at peace now shes dead. If Vincent van Gogh didnt cut off his ear, who did? CHRIS Watts' family home where he brutally murdered his pregnant wife Shanann has been secretly put on the market, The Sun can exclusively reveal. By Jeff Truesdell. What the Discovery Documents say about Shananns Lexus. what has you confused is whoever wrote this report threw in, directly in the paragraph above, that, regarding this specified work truck, the officer had been advised that the suspect had been seen loading items in the truck in the early morning. You have to understand that Chris grew up in a family with a distant father, the whole house was a ball of tension, everything had to be perfect. First time posting, not sure if my comment is stuck in moderation or what. could be a result of her environment or even personality traits she has inherited from her parent(s). Maybe if Chris had more love and support for that marriage with Shannan from his family in the first place things may not have gone this far with him disposing of them like dirt. *that is the information this report from the surveilling officer is conveying about what he observed Tuesday evening*. And he would chase me around lashing me with pieces of willow full of ticks laughing his ass off about how theyre biting me and drinking my blood. Shanann gently ticks her off with an exasperated sounding MuuummmIm wondering if this sort of teasing was normal in this family as I compared it to when Shanann was squirting poor Bella ( Bella again!) Was Chris Watts having an affair with another man? Grandmother Rzucek was also religiously obsessive. with water on their back balcony in Frederick.. Bella tried to get away, and when Chris came to rescue her by opening the glass sliding door, Shanann said something and he backed off, leaving Bella to be tormented..Because I think thats a type of torment, when the child obviously wanted to escape. It was a needless and cruel thing to do to a mother. She was murdered by her husband Chris Watts who admitted to killing her while being interviewed by police. Watts killed his entire family in August 2018. I noticed that two people in particular grew up in households with a bi-polar mother. At 1:03 Bishop mentions everyone wanting to know what happened to Shanann Watts car.. Nobody knows Stephen Paddocks motive 6 months after Las Vegas. Really? Posted below A comment from someone who knew Chris and his family from childhood. Yes, she was murdered. Bella appeared to be a deep thinking, intelligent, v thoughtful child, even at such a young age. Old Ploy, New Game: How the McCanns are using PR [again] to influence a legal outcome that affects THEM, #Shakedown Unleashes on Sunday Night, Part 1, #Shakedown Unleashes on Sunday Night, Part 2, #Shakedown Unleashes on Sunday Night, Part 3, The Prodigal Nanny Returns #Shakedown McCann Podcast #1, #Shakedown Discusses DOUBT The Madeleine McCann Mystery with Ed Opperman. of motor vehicles its a Lexus Rx350. What do the stats say? Chris Watts Stoic During His Arrest just like Scott Peterson, WTF? What I tried to explain in this post is that there is early evidence linking her to legal shenanigans in her past, which may or may not mean the early report was accurate. 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Why didnt they just move back to NC,! Meredith Kercher: Another Murderer to go Free? Its creepy to see people blaming the victim For her own murder, like the psychopath murder. Abusers blame the victims, Every. Shanann also had fibromyalgia, as I do, and its extremely painful and debilitating. Was the change of clothing deposited in the Lexus because he hoped to grab the clothing and take to work 8/13 after he got rid of his burial clothing, or might he kept clothing changes in the cargo area of the Lexus to change into after all those nights spent at Nichole Kessengers? Manipulation is the KeyWord! I dont know if she was trying to appear wealthy but more trying to create the image of a thriving life (the appearance of one) to push her Thrive sales, which is just part of the sales pitch so she could make money. Omeprazole is given for indigestion and peptic ulcers. If she thought her grandchildren were in danger, there were other ways to intervene. Shanann Watts died Intestate Is A Court Battle Looming in Probate Court over LifeInsurance. Where you there? Especially the mothers that put their children first. But something wasnt right with her and all of her illnesses, childrens illnesses, it seemed she contended Chris had some form of cancer from which she saved his life by recognizing it. Same reason she used Chris FB account too to post about her life and Thrive, to reach more people, therefore hopefully more customers. What is Henri van Bredas ring of power and pain? He couldnt even buy lunch. If Shanann was speaking on Watts behalf, telling everyone he was shopping for a new luxury car, when it was actually her auto bonus, her business, and her aspirations [or promotional aspirations], then she was representing an acquisitive ability that wasnt merely a gross exaggeration, were able to see in the discovery dump that it wasnt true. He gave up His Everything For Her! Intelligent eyes. 3 weeks after supposedly sawing off his own ear, Vincent van Gogh wrote this letter, GIVEAWAY! Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged three and four on August 13, 2018. Captive Passenger Cars & Equipment . Really? She has to know that she contributed to the drastic measure he took not just by getting him to fall in love with her but exerting her own sort of leverage over him that at any time she could decide hes not for her anymore because she wants a guy who she can build her own family with. You Watts twats kill me . Why bother? Well, she could spin a good yarn. At What Point Was Chris Watts DONE With THRIVE? Auctioning it off had to do with wear, tear, and mileage. An Oscar for the Great Pretender [WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC IMAGES], Be bravemake your voice heard, your physical you seen and the presence of your mental you felt. Reeva Steenkamp [WARNING GRAPHIC CRIME SCENE PHOTOS], Oscar Pistorius Sentencing July 6 [LIVE COVERAGE], Oscar Pistorius Sentencing Hearing: Day 2 [LIVE COVERAGE], Oscar Pistorius Sentencing Hearing: Day 3. What impact did THRIVE have on Shananns marriage? The Watts family murders occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, US. Watts repeatedly talks about the murder of Shanann as this moment where he snapped because she supposedly threatened to take the kids away from him. Also, I think the night she came home (after buying hair products online, of course), she accused him of having an affair, and that was all it took for him to finally just blow his top. Im a nurse and Ive also wondered if Shanann was a bit subject to having Munchausen by Proxy. Every time they ask for it all to stop it just adds fuel to the fire. Nick Im not sure where you have found this about the loading up of the Lexus. He put his babies in the oil tanks so theyd presumably never be found. Im a Catholic too, but lord, grandmother Rzucek ( Sandra) is a bit off the planet about it. ( her children were also murdered not just her!, cause maybe youre trying to say she deserved it?). She was born with some ailment, but had surgery to correct it. Basically, after working for Thrive full-time for a month, selling vitamin patches and shakes, the company apparently wanted to give Atkinson a car to reward her for her hard work. That she was so caught up in something, it swallowed her up, and encouraged the swallowing up and wholesale consumption of others, so that while this was happening, she was blinded to not one, by many obvious realities. No history of seizure activity, I guess her parents believed what she told them but this whole thing was a farce. Nothing this woman said seems to be true, all of it a lie. Love this place, btw! Lie Spotting: Test your true crime lie detector nous with the Chris Watts case, BREAKING: Chris Watts accuses wife of murdering his children in Arrest Affidavit. But the statement is specific that the loading was on the morning of the disappearance. It could be an error in the discovery, or it could be accurate. An argument can be made that Shanann started losing her life before she died. Think about it. If Oscar wanted to sell his story, could he, and if he could, why doesnt he, and if he has, how has he? Sociopath? They become addicted to the trauma. It also meant he would necessarily need to use the Lexus himself, and Shananns Facebook does show Watts often behind the wheel, while she is in the passenger seat. Sheer boredom with covid lock in lead me to his prison interviews, sort of lets see what the douche bag has to say for his sorry skin. Watts was convicted of strangling his wife, Shanann, 34, in the house and then smothering his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, at his work site. I wouldnt be surprised if Chris isnt on work release at the same hospital soon. According to Watts, be believed his vehicle had been vandalized or broken into, but left his toolboxes in the back unlocked to "see if anyone was trying to break into the truck" again. Its creepy to see people defaming a deceased women who cant defend herself. Shanann Watts was an American businessperson who is a victim of murder. [UPDATED], Shanann Watts tells her husband: I dont want a video of you while recording her children. Was I wrong? Did Shanann do something, and youre protecting her. In the video, dated June 26, Shanann adds that Nickole had started working full-time as a Thrive promoter for the past month [presumably June], working the business, and that she [Nickole] had quit her job of 14 years to do that. What really jumps out is the debt and oddly enough, things HER mother has said (again mom in the flesh speaking on YOUTUBE). If you feel the work ethic is lacking in terms of my research Carol, feel free to go somewhere else. It could be one big psyop. At 5:37 in the clip above, HBOs John Oliver refers to the dangling of vast lifestyle improvements, especially flashy cars, and luxury travel, as being at the heart of the MLM pitch.. Her and her daughter asked to be responsible for sending out letters inviting guests to Chris and Shannans wedding and they failed to do that, purposely (people Shannan had invited did not turn up and claimed to have never got those invitations). Thats not because youre of superior intelligence. There is also reason to believe her financial situation at the time she lost her first house could have led to credit card impairment and debt related charges. He had power ranger figures, they had to be set up in a specific and certain way on his bedside table. Im a mother and I would never do anything like it. Possibly a silly detail. Reading the transcripts again and honing in on the things Nichole K. said it sounds like she gave mixed messages to the investigator but more importantly to Watts. However, I want to see an alibi for her on the morning of the murders. In his mind. Dirty South Customs = Shananns Dirty LittleSecret? Time. a car accessory company based in Fayetteville. ShanAnn thought she was a princess, but behaved like absolute low class trash, from the emotional manipulation to the incessant bragging over mundane things, to the scheming and conning. Shananns name was/is often misspelt as its so close to the more common Shannon. I wanted to provide the primary motivation for the killing of the girls that burns red hot rather than green (money). 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